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		<title>By: JO FERENCZI</title>
		<link>http://www.savederbyplayhouse.org/2008/03/29/hippodrome-demolished/#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator>JO FERENCZI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris- you have echoed my thoughts and feelings 100%,and I'm sure many others on this site.
I'm so sorry I haven't time to discuss further now, or the next 2 days.
But I will be looking out for your comments here and on facebook.
Be sure Chris- there are many like minded people in Derby and surrounds,
who are horribly dismayed by what is happening in Derby.
I just hope at the very least, some of us can stay in touch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris- you have echoed my thoughts and feelings 100%,and I&#8217;m sure many others on this site.<br />
I&#8217;m so sorry I haven&#8217;t time to discuss further now, or the next 2 days.<br />
But I will be looking out for your comments here and on facebook.<br />
Be sure Chris- there are many like minded people in Derby and surrounds,<br />
who are horribly dismayed by what is happening in Derby.<br />
I just hope at the very least, some of us can stay in touch.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joanne
I read the article in today's paper but was unable to leave a comment on the web page as it closes down before I get home,  you have made some very valid points.

Derby Live has made it into Private Eye! A work colleague showed me the copy. Derby is the butt of a big joke in an article headed "Derby Donkeys" in which Derby Live is slammed as a an un-coordinated mish-mash of ill conceived cultural events.

I hold out little hope for the Hippodrome, the demolition of which will a shameful indictment of our city council and of Derby. Every city in the UK has a Hippodrome style theatre, most of which were predicted to fail due to lack of support; all have proved a high level of success. You can’t just build one of these theatres, you either have one or you don’t, now Derby is likely to lose its Hippodrome so will be the only city in the UK without such a theatre,

Derby has a conference hall (the Assembly Rooms), a small but attractive converted Town Hall,  a modern but unused Playhouse and a huge grey skip on top of a shopping centre, which serves as a multiplex cinema.

Cathedral Green will end up as an unofficial skateboard park, not the Minack style theatre that the council appears to believe they are creating.
Derby is slipping behind the rest of the UK and the politicians are doing nothing useful to prevent it – no amount of shops offices and flats will be a substitute for theatre and the performing arts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joanne<br />
I read the article in today&#8217;s paper but was unable to leave a comment on the web page as it closes down before I get home,  you have made some very valid points.</p>
<p>Derby Live has made it into Private Eye! A work colleague showed me the copy. Derby is the butt of a big joke in an article headed &#8220;Derby Donkeys&#8221; in which Derby Live is slammed as a an un-coordinated mish-mash of ill conceived cultural events.</p>
<p>I hold out little hope for the Hippodrome, the demolition of which will a shameful indictment of our city council and of Derby. Every city in the UK has a Hippodrome style theatre, most of which were predicted to fail due to lack of support; all have proved a high level of success. You can’t just build one of these theatres, you either have one or you don’t, now Derby is likely to lose its Hippodrome so will be the only city in the UK without such a theatre,</p>
<p>Derby has a conference hall (the Assembly Rooms), a small but attractive converted Town Hall,  a modern but unused Playhouse and a huge grey skip on top of a shopping centre, which serves as a multiplex cinema.</p>
<p>Cathedral Green will end up as an unofficial skateboard park, not the Minack style theatre that the council appears to believe they are creating.<br />
Derby is slipping behind the rest of the UK and the politicians are doing nothing useful to prevent it – no amount of shops offices and flats will be a substitute for theatre and the performing arts.</p>
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		<title>By: JO FERENCZI</title>
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		<dc:creator>JO FERENCZI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris- I totally agree.Please see the comments page on today's DET story
re "arts" agenda pre election.(Look up Playhouse or Hippodrome- and it's in the archive.)
Also, add Leicester to your list.The Curve Theatre is costing £60 million,
paid for by the local Council, ACEM, and the government.
Last week on "Inside Out"- BBC1-there was a discussion about Derby's excessively low subsidy in the arts and theatre compared to other cities in the East Midlands.
Why has this always been the case?
Are Derbians judged to be less "cultural" than in Leicester?
This flies in the face of evidence of audience numbers at the Playhouse for decades.
Re the Hippodrome-I dread to think what the outcome will be.
Whatever it is, I suspect also that will have a knock on effect for the election results; I do hope they're not just hanging on until the election is over....Do you think the Council genuinely care?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris- I totally agree.Please see the comments page on today&#8217;s DET story<br />
re &#8220;arts&#8221; agenda pre election.(Look up Playhouse or Hippodrome- and it&#8217;s in the archive.)<br />
Also, add Leicester to your list.The Curve Theatre is costing £60 million,<br />
paid for by the local Council, ACEM, and the government.<br />
Last week on &#8220;Inside Out&#8221;- BBC1-there was a discussion about Derby&#8217;s excessively low subsidy in the arts and theatre compared to other cities in the East Midlands.<br />
Why has this always been the case?<br />
Are Derbians judged to be less &#8220;cultural&#8221; than in Leicester?<br />
This flies in the face of evidence of audience numbers at the Playhouse for decades.<br />
Re the Hippodrome-I dread to think what the outcome will be.<br />
Whatever it is, I suspect also that will have a knock on effect for the election results; I do hope they&#8217;re not just hanging on until the election is over&#8230;.Do you think the Council genuinely care?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I walk past the Hippodrome almost every working day and was there on what has become known as "Black Friday" (28th March).

I would say that from Crompon Street, the damage looks pretty well terminal. However a more detailed examintion of the whole building shows that the Macklin Street side and most of the auditorium are intact. It will take some serious rebuilding work to restore the upper floors, the Fly Tower and the roof. Having spoken to a building contractor on this matter, I have been assured that there is no danger to the public unless they enter illegally, and most of the restoration would be needed to repair the damage caused over the past 12 to 15 months.

For those who claim Derby is too small for a theatre, including the Playhouse and the Hippodrome, they should ask why we have such a large shopping centre.

The audiences are there, and there is a national revival of drama and variety theatre in theUK, but at the moment we are losing audiences to places like Notingham and Birmingham where there is a great choice of both old and modern theatre venues</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I walk past the Hippodrome almost every working day and was there on what has become known as &#8220;Black Friday&#8221; (28th March).</p>
<p>I would say that from Crompon Street, the damage looks pretty well terminal. However a more detailed examintion of the whole building shows that the Macklin Street side and most of the auditorium are intact. It will take some serious rebuilding work to restore the upper floors, the Fly Tower and the roof. Having spoken to a building contractor on this matter, I have been assured that there is no danger to the public unless they enter illegally, and most of the restoration would be needed to repair the damage caused over the past 12 to 15 months.</p>
<p>For those who claim Derby is too small for a theatre, including the Playhouse and the Hippodrome, they should ask why we have such a large shopping centre.</p>
<p>The audiences are there, and there is a national revival of drama and variety theatre in theUK, but at the moment we are losing audiences to places like Notingham and Birmingham where there is a great choice of both old and modern theatre venues</p>
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		<title>By: Jo Ferenczi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo Ferenczi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thankyou Chris- good to hear from you!
There's also a facebook site - I think it's called Hippodrome Green Lane Derby(?) or maybe not in that order.
I will certainly look up the site you suggest- thanks.
I'll look out for your comments on this site too.
Best wishes- Jo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankyou Chris- good to hear from you!<br />
There&#8217;s also a facebook site - I think it&#8217;s called Hippodrome Green Lane Derby(?) or maybe not in that order.<br />
I will certainly look up the site you suggest- thanks.<br />
I&#8217;ll look out for your comments on this site too.<br />
Best wishes- Jo.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joanne

The answer is yes. If anyone is interested in preserving our heritage and would like to learn more, May I suggest the following website as a starting point:

http://www.derbyheritageforum.co.uk/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joanne</p>
<p>The answer is yes. If anyone is interested in preserving our heritage and would like to learn more, May I suggest the following website as a starting point:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.derbyheritageforum.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.derbyheritageforum.co.uk/</a></p>
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		<title>By: JO FERENCZI</title>
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		<dc:creator>JO FERENCZI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris-
Can I just ask if your'e the same "Chris"from the DET Hippodrome
stories?
If so- I have really appreciated all your input and knowledge!
Sorry haven't got much more to add, other than continuing dismay and horror at events unfolding....
PS- I'm Joanne, Derbys, on DET.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris-<br />
Can I just ask if your&#8217;e the same &#8220;Chris&#8221;from the DET Hippodrome<br />
stories?<br />
If so- I have really appreciated all your input and knowledge!<br />
Sorry haven&#8217;t got much more to add, other than continuing dismay and horror at events unfolding&#8230;.<br />
PS- I&#8217;m Joanne, Derbys, on DET.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 16:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watching the first offering of ITV’s Britain’s got Talent, Saturday April 12th, I was impressed by quality of the successful amateur acts. The huge popularity of this television series proves beyond any doubt that variety theatre has a great future in the UK.

The first edition of this year’s auditions was recorded at the Hackney Empire, an excellent example of an early 20th century Variety Palace. Built in 1901, and from the outset was also equipped to serve as a cinema. 

Like so many theatres and cinemas, the Empire was converted into a bingo hall during the 1950s/60s; its owner, Mecca, had the original decorations painted over with their corporate colours, and had the seating removed from the back stalls to make room for a bar.

It is hard to believe, having seen its interior on the show that the Hackney Empire had faced demolition during the late 1970s, when despite being listed, a developer had started to demolish the theatre’s front entrance. According to the Theatres Trust, the developer was forced to carry out a re-build of the demolished parts using original and similar materials.

In 2004, with the help of lottery matched funding, the auditorium and stage areas were restored and the theatre is now one of London’s premiere independent performing arts venues, something that was considered as an unlikely outcome at the time of its restoration.

The Britain’s Got Talent TV show will be using a number of venues, similar to the Hackney Empire, for auditions around the country over the next few months; I doubt that Derby was, or ever will be considered for such events as it does not have an old style a theatre to equal the magnificence of its neighbouring cities’ old style theatres.

Photographs of Derby Hippodrome’s interior, taken just before the end of 2006, show a theatre very similar in all of its aspects to the Hackney Empire. Remember that the pundits and “experts” had assumed that the Empire could never succeed as a theatre, but were proved wrong. I believe Derby, as the only city in England without such a theatre, will be the loser here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching the first offering of ITV’s Britain’s got Talent, Saturday April 12th, I was impressed by quality of the successful amateur acts. The huge popularity of this television series proves beyond any doubt that variety theatre has a great future in the UK.</p>
<p>The first edition of this year’s auditions was recorded at the Hackney Empire, an excellent example of an early 20th century Variety Palace. Built in 1901, and from the outset was also equipped to serve as a cinema. </p>
<p>Like so many theatres and cinemas, the Empire was converted into a bingo hall during the 1950s/60s; its owner, Mecca, had the original decorations painted over with their corporate colours, and had the seating removed from the back stalls to make room for a bar.</p>
<p>It is hard to believe, having seen its interior on the show that the Hackney Empire had faced demolition during the late 1970s, when despite being listed, a developer had started to demolish the theatre’s front entrance. According to the Theatres Trust, the developer was forced to carry out a re-build of the demolished parts using original and similar materials.</p>
<p>In 2004, with the help of lottery matched funding, the auditorium and stage areas were restored and the theatre is now one of London’s premiere independent performing arts venues, something that was considered as an unlikely outcome at the time of its restoration.</p>
<p>The Britain’s Got Talent TV show will be using a number of venues, similar to the Hackney Empire, for auditions around the country over the next few months; I doubt that Derby was, or ever will be considered for such events as it does not have an old style a theatre to equal the magnificence of its neighbouring cities’ old style theatres.</p>
<p>Photographs of Derby Hippodrome’s interior, taken just before the end of 2006, show a theatre very similar in all of its aspects to the Hackney Empire. Remember that the pundits and “experts” had assumed that the Empire could never succeed as a theatre, but were proved wrong. I believe Derby, as the only city in England without such a theatre, will be the loser here.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jess... i'm sure it would have needed some renovation, i've never seen photos of the backstage facilities. The auditorium no doubt would have needed some work to comply with the Disability Discrimination Act and to make it more comfortable for taller contemporary audiences... If you have ever watched a long play in an old theatre and are over 6feet tall it can get quite painful, even the Playhouse seats can get painful for me during a long play!

Does it have to be a theatre? I'm sure a creative enough mind could have turned the Hippodrome into a office space, business centre, shopping arcade, the list is endless... hey they could have even turned it into a visual arts and film centre and called it something like the hexagon, triangle or... quad!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jess&#8230; i&#8217;m sure it would have needed some renovation, i&#8217;ve never seen photos of the backstage facilities. The auditorium no doubt would have needed some work to comply with the Disability Discrimination Act and to make it more comfortable for taller contemporary audiences&#8230; If you have ever watched a long play in an old theatre and are over 6feet tall it can get quite painful, even the Playhouse seats can get painful for me during a long play!</p>
<p>Does it have to be a theatre? I&#8217;m sure a creative enough mind could have turned the Hippodrome into a office space, business centre, shopping arcade, the list is endless&#8230; hey they could have even turned it into a visual arts and film centre and called it something like the hexagon, triangle or&#8230; quad!</p>
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		<title>By: jess</title>
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		<dc:creator>jess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LIke Martin I don't think this buildng would ever have been viable for the amateurs.. it's not exactly as manageable DSC "Shakespeare House"

Would it have been good enough for a modern theatre building though?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LIke Martin I don&#8217;t think this buildng would ever have been viable for the amateurs.. it&#8217;s not exactly as manageable DSC &#8220;Shakespeare House&#8221;</p>
<p>Would it have been good enough for a modern theatre building though?</p>
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